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luiz

New Member
I have just bought a 85mm 1.4mm that are in its way to me in Brazil.
I would like very much to receive comments from users of such lens.
Thanks in advance for any help.

Regards
 
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honenshonin

Luiz,

I'm hoping to buy the same 85mm 1.4! Has anyone tried this yet? It's a very impressive amount of glass...
 
A

andijs

>I have this lens 85 1.4 GD, I put it on Dynax 7 Limited. Actualy this is not a simply lens, this is briliant, exelent lens. By the way 35 1.4 also is
 
H

honenshonin

I got it! That is, the 84mm 1.4. I got it along with a 50mm 1.4 and the 7 body (I'm paying in installments). Needless to say, it feels different not having zoom capability, but it is a valuable tool in learning how to compose by moving yourself. I'm looking forward to seeing the slides I've already shot.
 

peterblaise

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> Yeah, but zooming is more like cropping than moving the photographer's point of view. Moving the photographer's point of view is the only way to move the photographer's point of view, regardless of zoom or single focal length lenses. I'm jealous, though, of your Minolta 7, 50/1.4 > and 85/1.4 - nice stuff! Share a web page or links to your Minolta Photography, okay?
 
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honenshonin

Peter,

Thanks for the message! That's a very good point about the difference between cropping and positioning, but I do find that when I have a zoom with me I just stop as soon as I see something pretty and then frame with the zoom. I think that without the zoom option I'll feel more pressured to move myself more and perhaps think more about how to compose by adjusting my position.

I don't have a link yet (sorry!) and my pictures are still admittedly mediocre, but hopefully by the time I have some work I'm actually proud of I can get a page somewhere.

Hope to hear from you again!
 

luiz

New Member
Hi you all,

The 85mm f/1.4 is something out of this world. It broke my banking account but I am so glad about it.
The pictures are perfect and I will try a 812 filter in my next roll of film.
 
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honenshonin

I just wanted to add an additional rave about the 85mm f/1.4. Last week I shot three rolls of Kodak Dyna-High Color at our city's summer festival (I live in Japan). The festivals are always extremely festive and colorful, and the 85mm perspective, coupled with the wide aperture as sunset approached, made for a whole slew of incredible candid shots. If I ever learn how to post photographs online, I will put them up.
 

peterblaise

Well-Known Member
Seth Hosler wrote: "... the 85mm perspective ..."

Hi Seth,

85mm is NOT a perspective.

Camera placement is perspective.

85mm is a cropping "angle of view" from the camera position.

A 16mm or 300mm lens from that same camera position would show the exact same "perspective" as the 85mm lens, though each will show a different cropping or "angle of view".

I appreciate the word "perspective" as you used it is a general, non-photographic term, but within photography, "perspective" has a very specific meaning, and it is CAMERA POSITION, not lens focal length!

I would LOVE to see some of the images you are talking about.

Shame we can't include images in our dialogue within our emails here! :-(

In summary, from a dictionary:

perspective: noun: the appearance of things relative to one another as determined by their distance from the viewer [photographic term] noun: a way of regarding situations or topics etc. [non photographic term]

The use of the word "perspective" in photography to mean "crop" or "zoom" or "focal length" or "magnification" is just too, too sloppy. =8^o

Perspective is: the appearance of things relative to one another as determined by their distance from the viewer.

But, don't worry, Seth, we're here to help you remember the meaning of the word "perspective" (and that definition above was NOT from a photographic dictionary, by the way!)

Perspective is: the appearance of things relative to one another as determined by their distance from the viewer.

Perspective is: the appearance of things relative to one another as determined by their distance from the viewer.

Perspective is: the appearance of things relative to one another as determined by their distance from the viewer.

... lather, rinse, repeat ... it will work it's way into your brain ... lather, rinse, repeat ... !

Good -- it's working!

;-)

Click!

Love and hugs,

Peter Blaise Monahon Minolta Photographer peterblaise@yahoo.com
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honenshonin

Peter,

HA! 'Tis true, I am but a layman. No technician, and certainly no wordsmith. I daresay I do not even really understand what photographers mean by "contrast", as the meaning is indeed a bit different from that intended by mere mortals.

I saw your comments on the Minolta 507 and the Minolta flash system on another forum. Very interesting. Since the camera manual and flash manual are next to useless, can you recommend a thorough and comprehensible resource that explains the wireless flash system and how it can be used on the 507 and the 7?

As for posting pictures, I need to learn how to make a web page, or at the very least find a place where I can post things. Being a dedicated technophobe, I need to find the simplest possible solution. Any advice?

Thank you for putting things in "perspective" for me.

-Seth
 

peterblaise

Well-Known Member
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Posted by Seth Hosler (Honenshonin) on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 4:52 am:

Peter,

HA! 'Tis true, I am but a layman.

[Yes, but even in layman's terms, using a non-photographic dictionary, "perspective" is point of view, the appearance of things relative to one another as determined by their distance from the viewer. Even without a camera!!! That is important!]

No technician, and certainly no wordsmith. I dare say I do not even really understand what photographers mean by "contrast", as the meaning is indeed a bit different from that intended by mere mortals.

[Contrast: noun: the act of distinguishing by comparing differences; the perceptual effect of the juxtaposition of very different colors; the opposition or dissimilarity of things that are compared (Ex&le: "In contrast to ..."); a conceptual separation or demarcation; to show differences when compared; be different; verb: put in contrast. In visual perception of real life, printed paper, a computer display, etc. contrast between different parts of an image, especially between objects (including characters) and the background enables one to see objects, read text, etc. From
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... so "contrast" is merely the clear differentiation between two discernable items in an image, usually light to dark, or the sharpness of an edge of an object in the image.]

I saw your comments on the Minolta 507 and the Minolta flash system on another forum. Very interesting. Since the camera manual and flash manual are next to useless, can you recommend a thorough and comprehensible resource that explains the wireless flash system and how it can be used on the 507 and the 7?

[...like the owner's manual for a screw driver will not tell you how to open a can of paint, for which almost all of is must have used a screw driver at one time or another!]

As for posting pictures, I need to learn how to make a web page, or at the very least find a place where I can post things. Being a dedicated technophobe, I need to find the simplest possible solution. Any advice?

Thank you for putting things in "perspective" for me.

-Seth

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Hi Seth,

Let's be accurate here - "Minolta 507si" - as merely "507" without the "si" could mean an older, manual focus Minolta model.

minoltainfo.com promises an image forum and has some lovely Minolta Photography there, though there are many other forums where you can actually share images in emails (Yahoo! Groups and Smartgroups come to mind, and I'm exploring Topica) -- these are PHOTOGRAPHY discussions after all, no? So where are the images? I think minoltainfo.com expects us to attach images to emails and they will land in one of the forums ... I don't know from experience, but I see [IMAGE] in emails which makes me think someone sent an image somewhere, even though I can't see it!!!

Here's my own image as a test:

[Image]

theminoltians/lizkulick-2002-line-up-6-peterblaise

Does anyone know where they can see it now that I have sent it? And how is it labeled?

So, Seth, do you currently have images in digital form? How'd you get them scanned? From film or prints?

The modern Minolta flash is stooopidly simple. The only complexity is where I want to place my flash. Everything else is automatic.

For on-camera, it's stuck there. For off camera, I try to imitate the sun, and put the flash above and to the left of the camera.

Then I decide how much more or less I want the flash to be the primary source of light - "normal" for primary source, or "-1" or "-2" compensation or even SLOW SYNC for the flash as the secondary source of light after the existing subject lighting -- or a combination of compensation and slow sync, and even "ratio" if I use more than one flash.

Gary Walts has a nice dedicated modern Minolta Flash page, but everyone has different subjects and different lighting needs, so you're gonna have to explore, trial and error method! You may have to adapt and adopt Gary's advice to your own needs.

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Tell us more - what is your current challenge facing you concerning flash?

Click!

Love and hugs,

Peter Blaise Monahon Minolta Photographer peterblaise@yahoo.com
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